The entrance to 1623/91 (foreground, behind left of snow bank), and 1623/93 (behind small shrubs, just right of centre) on the Loser plateau, as they appeared in 1989 (quite a lot of snow that year). View is below the Bräuning Wall, roughly north back towards Schönberg (top right). Top camp is off to the right. Both caves are vertical, fairly loose, and choke quickly (20m and 35m). They were explored in 1977.