plateau - Prospecting/visiting known holes near Organhöhle

Wed 11 Jul 2018
Anthony Day



Hacked out on the cairned path to Organhöhle to look at some holes found on a 2012 prospecting trip, and see whatever we could find:

  • 2012-dd-06 ("Big-D-Höhle") - apparently surveyed last year, but not in the dataset. Red survey stations visible but unknown how far it has been explored.
  • 2012-dd-08 [now 1623-297] ("Shark tooth cave", due to popcorn formations that look vaguely likesharks' teeth). A choked 5m round phreatic tube reported as carrying some draught in 2012. Poked around in two holes on the left (which connect) and another at the end without finding any way on. Grade 2 survey completed.
  • 2012-dd-10 - refound and tagged. Worth descending but especially promising.
  • 2018-ad-01 - a ~15m shaft just around corner fom 2012-dd-10 photo'd and tagged; not especially promising.
  • 2012-dd-02 - Tagged on our way home. Reported as draughting/windy in 2012, but doesn't look amazing.


[Ed.2 moved to a prospecting trip closer to these coordinates, but still doesn't look ike the right trip. Maybe a different year?!] 2018 Philip Withnall Description (talk to Philip W ? to decipher)Coordinates (UTM, OsmAnd+ on Android, Philip’s phone)

[Ed. Should these coordinates not be 33T not 33N ??]
10, no, just a pocket 33N 411932 5283707
11, no, down sloping rift 33N 411940 5283712
12, choked twin shafts 33N 412043 5283693
12, steep scree narrow pitch, needs torch and rope, probably choked 33N 412046 5283663
13, steep rift, floor mostly choked, no draft, need a rope and light, probably choked 33N 412021 5283649
16, deep drippy rift, draft, leg 18m, deeper than that 33N 411954 5283576
16, deep wide rift, 40m+, drippy, promising, 14m disto leg to first ledge 33N 411943 5283565
'CUCC-OK-1 2012' 33N 411898 5283590 [2012-OK-01 is actually 411876, 5283524]
9, need torch 33N 411879 5283658
8, no 33N 411792 5283631
2017-NR-02 33N 411873 5283527 [ Ed. p2017-NR-02 is 411874, 5283528 so this matches]
6, needs rope and spade 33N 411764 5283545
2, probably not 33N 411787 5283480
1 33N 411804 5283452
2017-NR-01 33N 411811 5283442 [p2017-NR-01 is 411811, 5283442 - so correct]

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Survex files on this date:
    caves-1623/297/297
Wallets on this date:
    2018#01 Prospecting beyond FGH ['logbook1', '2018-ms-04_etc']
    2018#02 Shark Tooth Cave ['notes', 'plan']
Logbook trips on this date:
    plateau - Prospecting past Fisch Gesicht, beyond the ski pole line
    plateau - Prospecting/visiting known holes near Organhöhle