Surface - Looking for entrances from the Oberwasseralm path

Mon 15 Jul 2024
philips

I cycled up to the far end of Altaussee lake and walked up the path towards Hochklapfsattel (towards Wildensee) to have a good look at the side of the Loser massif below the Stoger Weg. [I am still looking for the entrance making the Howling Draft in the Futility Series in 115, which is 60m from the surface.]

The cycle path along the south side of the lake is now stopped after half way, and bicycles have to trog up the hill and go along the track, which is

  • A worse surface
  • in the full sun, not in the nice shade
  • A totally unnecessary extra 80m of ascent which I really did not like
They really don't like cyclists I feel.

Anyway I parked the bike at the "No Cycling" notice at the bottom of the track up (where going left would go to Stummern Alm) and walked up 3km (+400m) to Oberwasseralm.

It is mostrously dramatic: not only are you right underneath the Trisselwand but the Loser massif (Vor.SMK) Weisse Wand is huge and very steep.

/photos/2024/PhilipSargent/valley-below-115.jpg

/photos/2024/PhilipSargent/green-valley-context.jpg

Steep grassy valley below the Stoger Weg and context of steep grassy valley. Any actual entrances to the phreatic level are probably below and to the left, in the woods.

I did spot, I think, the steep grassy "valley" with an entrance at the top end which Chas and Planc found in 1983 and which I revisited in 2017.1983-07-27 When they said:

"So we looked at a big phreatic entrance further east (up the valley) and ~50m higher. This was looked at in 1982, but a bit of proddling released lots of boulders + we were able to follow up a narrowing bedding plane at ~60°, for 10m until it got too loose/small. Very difficult descent on scree to the end of the Altausseer See + then the Schniderwirt for Weizen Bier."

GPS track is uploaded using expo.survex.com/gpxupload/.

The photos of the same place from the Loser side in 2018 - description of trip in logbook on and photos in /photos/2018/PhilipSargent/lookfutile2-20180729/ logbook 2018-08-03b.

I think the phreatic entrance in the photo, a 3m climb up the cliff, is the 'big' one they refer to.

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